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Unknown
This is. This is Kino.

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Unknown
I don't know, it's a double speed.

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Unknown
That's great. It's excellent. Means to save as correct.

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Unknown
I like how it's clearly got the Jiff encoding.

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Unknown
I hate Jeff's.

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Unknown
Fuck the master race. Inferiority complex. The Ghost Rider one. The Ghost Rider has an inferiority complex. PC is so based. The only reason you wouldn't use your PC is if, you haven't invested in any any games that are available on it. Or if you have, like, a shit PC. It's only two ways about it. reign being cast down to hell for saying God instead of God.

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Unknown
It's literally the way that English works, and English is a stupid fucking language. So it's fair enough. But, that's that's how it works.

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Unknown
Like, how do you say. How do you say that? One Jojo character. Right. What am I doing? that that one Jojo character is his name. Giorno is his name giorno? Or is his name giorno? Because it's fucking Italian. Is his name Geo? Or is it geo free? Free. Stream access suspended. Repeated violations of our community guidelines. Why?

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Unknown
Has a human being done this as a human being? Done. This is not. This is not not to be like you and a human supremacist or anything, but like what? What the fuck did I say? Seriously, what did I say? Show me the details then, you prick. Restrictions? No records.

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Unknown
Oh, okay, so it is here. It's in the live center. Live restricted for some audiences. Harassment and bullying. Like, why? Why, though? Fuck, did I do? Nothing. I didn't do shit.

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Unknown
Like it's. What is it? Is is it because I was talking about people? I don't know. I think people need to just stop being soft because it's like there wasn't anything that I said that was offensive. And even if they did get offended by it, I don't think that deserves me to have my fucking channel destroyed. It's not even loading anything.

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Unknown
There's no details for me to even see. Something went wrong.

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Unknown
You never explained what pink frames are. It's a blender thing. You wouldn't understand.

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Unknown
So there's no active restrictions. It says. The so useless.

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Unknown
Is it because I said English is a stupid fucking language? Because I was like, the last thing that I said I got. I got banned within 30s of me saying English is a stupid fucking language. You've got to be kidding me. There's no possible way that that is why that happened.

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Unknown
This this platform is so clapped literally. 1984. I can't say English is a stupid fucking language. It's true also that the Chinese government would absolutely love that message. I know who owns you. TikTok get you. Get your knickers out of a twist. Okay? Don't get them in a twist. That's the. That's the phrase. I don't know why I fucked up the phrase.

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Unknown
That that I say any.

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Unknown
It went down the moment I said fucking Italian. I don't think that's why that wouldn't make any sense. But at the same time, like this, it doesn't. None of this makes sense. There's nothing about this that makes sense. Like, what the hell?

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Unknown
Guy is J is G is G. Yeah. Jif is Jif. Yeah, that's that's exactly what it is.

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Unknown
Because it, like, this is a thing. Why do people have to pretend like this isn't a thing? Like, all of a sudden when Jif exists, people, like, just just become fucking retarded with English. And frankly, English is a retarded language, like, I don't I don't really mind it. English doesn't make this this particularly good. This is an English problem.

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Unknown
But like soft G refers to the g sound that the letter g makes, typically with followed by e I o y. Like in Jem Giant Jim Giant.

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Unknown
Differing from the hard g sound, words like get or go. Common phonics rule with exceptions like girl, give. But but that's the funny thing is that the exceptions. I don't know if you problem with me speak pronouncing it that way. or if you have a problem with me pronouncing it that way, you don't have a problem with me pronouncing it that way.

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Unknown
You have a problem with English not being clear about its fucking rules because it sucks. This language sucks. Okay, usually occurs when g is followed by e I o y gentle magic and a g o comes from Latin and French, where g changed sound before front vowels. What's a Germanic origin? Get, give and go? Those are hard.

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Unknown
G is some Greco Latin. It words like gynecology, but that doesn't count because it literally has a soft G at the end as well. Gynecology giant energy Jim Page giraffe.

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Unknown
Wait, what? Why is it asterisk. Oh, right. It's the it's go gap go gift. Get.

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Unknown
Basically it's an unanswerable question. Like there's no possible way to actually solve this conundrum.

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Unknown
I'll turn the restrictions off. Let me say bad words I wish I could like I genuinely don't know where I would go to do that. I wish I actually there was a free speech platform that, like, existed that wasn't also like, inundated with with troglodytes and other like insane people, like, I don't know.

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Unknown
I wish, I wish normal people were okay with people being offensive. Like, I don't know, because when you take the approach of like, punishing people for anything that could be possibly construed as offensive because there's no way a human actually took down that stream. Like for me, saying that's English is a fucking stupid language or whatever, or, because it's fucking Italian is the quote that I actually said, like, there's no fucking way that that was done by a human being, because if they had heard what I was saying, they would realize that there's nothing fucking offensive about what I said.

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Unknown
It's so stupid. Plenty of fans when I crush their bladder. I don't think that's I don't think that's what that is. Big brother is watching. True. Yes. He is Israel watch Twitch rail. I'm going to return you to the store, you knuckle duster. I'm going to target you for though, because it's easier to tackle the effector, not the cause.

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Unknown
What is hate speech then? It's a concept that exists in the minds of weak people. Like, I don't I don't think it's, a worthwhile, thing to, to enact into rules, laws or to even discuss ethically. I mean, I don't know, I suppose everything is up for ethical discussion, but there is no speech that, that should be policed and there's no nothing that one can say that can violate the rights of others, like, other than, defamation.

00:10:01:22 - 00:10:22:55
Unknown
Possibly. But even then, that's like a tort law thing. And, you know, you take it to court when someone defames you, and you see, if you have legal standing, then you can you prove if you had, damages and those damages, you know, once quantified, can be, brought against the person who brought those damages to you.

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Unknown
It's like, you know, that's actually something that's provable. Offense is taken, not given. And so there's nothing that anyone can say that should be policed. against, like there's nothing that someone can say to somebody or of somebody or just say out loud, when somebody gets offended, that should be police because it's, you know, that's, that's a you problem.

00:10:46:51 - 00:11:08:52
Unknown
Once you get offended, that's that's on you. it doesn't necessarily that mean that everyone should be offensive, but it does mean that everyone should have the right to be offensive in the same that same way that we were speaking on, the ethics of like, mass, what what is it? sex toys of any kind, be they electronic or otherwise.

00:11:08:52 - 00:11:40:01
Unknown
It's like you may have the right to use them. but it may not necessarily be the most, rationally self. rationally self-interested thing to do to rely on them. and I think you can probably make the same case for what you ought to say. like, people have the right to lie, within limits, because sometimes lies can violate rights, in certain situations, like people have the right to lie, generally speaking.

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Unknown
but it's not a good idea to do, so you can certainly say that of attempting to be offensive. It's like you may have the right to do it. It may not renown to your benefit. It just depends on what you're doing. what about a threat or manipulation using speech? incitement? I certainly think that that incitement, should be punishable by law, but, it also needs to be heavily constrained because I used to kind of think that, you know, certain things that people say should be, like, it should be easier to catch someone with an incitement law.

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Unknown
I don't really think that any more. partially because the amount of jokes that people can make would just be silly. Excuse me? Significantly, decreased if you were to do that. Kind of like. Like a lot of the jokes that people make would, would suddenly become crimes. And it's like they're jokes, though, like, it's fine. It doesn't matter how defensive it is that anybody, if it's a joke.

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Unknown
20 diamonds, ten diamonds, one diamond, two diamonds. I don't even know, like, what the diamonds do or anything, but apparently I may never find out, because if they revoke my bloody restream access for fucking no reason, I'll have to sort this out later. It's like. Oh, no, you repeatedly. You've been banned from the Mickey Mouse Club. You've repeatedly violated our, terms of service.

00:13:12:59 - 00:13:32:46
Unknown
It's like, what did I do? Give me, like, show up with a clip and say, you are not allowed to say this thing, then I'm going to fucking find one. I'm going to reapply and be like, manually review my content. What did I say? And I'm going to be like, I don't know, the I took it down. I'm going to be like, yeah, reinstate it, you bitch.

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Unknown
So stupid.

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Unknown
What about speech that leads to suicide? Suicide? While tragic. is not traceable to someone else's speech as its source. Like, in the end, it takes a willful act of the, of the suicidal person themselves to, to take their own life. And that is the willful act of the individual. nobody else should be punished for the act that that individual took.

00:14:13:22 - 00:14:37:52
Unknown
you certainly get into dicey moral territory when you get into a situation where maybe someone is inciting them to, to take their own lives. Like if you say, kill yourself to somebody and you mean it, then, you know, is it is it true that you have incited them to do that? And I don't know if the American, because I'm not certain if I agree with the American standard.

00:14:37:57 - 00:15:19:43
Unknown
because, the incitement standard, set by Brandenburg v Ohio, can't have shit in Ohio, requires intent, imminence and likelihood. and I like I don't know if this is how if if there's any. I'd have to do research in order to figure this one out. Like, I don't know if there's any any precedent set for, incriminating people who, spoke on like, who told like, if you're on, like, a video call or something like that, and you, and you see somebody has a gun in their hand and you say you should kill yourself with that.

00:15:19:48 - 00:15:43:53
Unknown
and it's like, okay, intent, intent is hard to prove. And I don't necessarily know if I agree with the ability. Like, I don't necessarily think that, that courts should go about proving intent because intent is very difficult to prove in general. So like it's almost as if you shouldn't even deal with intent, because it's hardly relevant to the outcome.

00:15:43:53 - 00:16:16:34
Unknown
And if you're policing the outcome, or rather, keeping it simple, it was there are rights violation involved is what you should be asking. And intent has nothing to do with that. if I go out on the road and I drive, I it it doesn't really matter if I didn't intend to, kill somebody. If the actions that I take in driving and perhaps I'm drinking at the same time, and then I end up crashing and I end up killing someone out of, out of my actions.

00:16:16:39 - 00:16:39:00
Unknown
it it really doesn't have anything to do with the like. My intent does not matter at that point. what matters is the damages that I've actually incurred on somebody else. so I'm part of me is just like, I don't even think that intent is something that should be discussed in court. because it may be relevant when it comes to whether or not you think that that person is a good or bad person.

00:16:39:00 - 00:16:59:52
Unknown
But I don't think that that's what courts are designed to do or should be designed to do. when it comes to actually like policing crimes, and punishing rights violations, I don't think it ought to be discussed, really. It's just not this hardly relevant. And it's too difficult to answer. Right. Anyway, so, imminence the legal action must be immediate.

00:16:59:52 - 00:17:17:07
Unknown
Vague goals for future violence don't qualify. so, like, you know, my example where if you're on a live stream and you say, you know, You know, someone has a gun is. Oh, yeah, I got, I got my I don't know, maybe it's behind them. I see, I, I got my gun safe in the corner. They I you should go over there.

00:17:17:07 - 00:17:44:21
Unknown
Take take your rifle out and stick it in your mouth. You know, something like that. imminence. could potentially be, proven in that kind of a case. Likelihood. like, I don't know, there's a lot of variables, even in this very simple situation that make it difficult. Like, let's say that person was brandishing the gun and then they knew that that person was mentally unwell.

00:17:44:25 - 00:18:03:55
Unknown
you could potentially get them on all three of these. I just don't know if it's actually used in the contents context of, of, what's the word of, of suicide in particular when you're telling somebody to kill themselves? I think it's fair to say that someone should be held criminally liable in a situation like that.

00:18:03:55 - 00:18:25:27
Unknown
So, but in that case, it's not the it's not the speech that's the problem. It's the incitement in and of itself and incitement in and of itself is in action, not speech in the same sense that like, when I make an assertion of my, opinion, like a political opinion, like some, some that I've given, recently, like in the last five minutes on the stream.

00:18:25:31 - 00:19:18:12
Unknown
I'm not saying anything. prescriptive really about about it, because it's just what I, what I observed to be, the correct moral, what's the word, the correct moral formula by which the law should be crafted? but that doesn't mean like, there's not an action that's in I suppose the only action there is an assertion of truth through speech, and it's the speech that actually is, is is what's being done in that case, whereas, in the case of, in the case of that example, it's not really the speech that is, it the speech is a direct call to action, and calls to action are

00:19:18:12 - 00:19:40:14
Unknown
not, not really regarded speech, at least I suppose in a legal sense. I don't know necessarily if, epistemology or Objectivist epistemology specifically, has something to say about speech, being sort of a different action than, than something that, you know, is.

00:19:40:19 - 00:20:11:15
Unknown
I don't know the point being, most, most, legal systems require, or consider speech to be different. to say, most legal systems in the United States, speech is considered as a, a different field than anything, literally anything that you do. because it's it's a neutral ground. It's it's the, the passage of commute.

00:20:11:20 - 00:20:49:19
Unknown
it's the communication of data of, of information to, other people. So, I don't know, it's sort of the idea that, the generally speaking, the things that you are allowed to communicate is basically anything, but I don't know, incitement. Is it kind of interesting because if you view speech as simply the passage of data, like like a data transfer in a sense, then are you policing the passage of that data or are you policing the data itself?

00:20:49:19 - 00:21:18:16
Unknown
And is there some data that you're not allowed to pass around? And then you should look really carefully at what data is not allowed to be trans. you know what? What data is allowed to be communicated? What information can you communicate? Can or cannot you communicate? and if that's the case, you should look at what you're not allowed to say, because what you're not allowed to say, will reveal the intent of the people who are making it possible, making it not possible for you to say those things.

00:21:18:28 - 00:21:40:45
Unknown
So in the case of TikTok, like in this case, I don't know what the hell the intention is. I don't think there's any intention behind it at all, actually, because I think it was done by a bot automatically because I said, a couple of expletives like that. I think that was the only reason. But, anyway, that was a fun little, little tangent.

00:21:40:49 - 00:21:57:34
Unknown
If God knows the future of everyone is free will real. I think if God knew the future of everyone, then that would mean that that, the determinism is true. but I don't think that God knows the future of everyone. if God, it was I, I don't know, it depends on what you mean by God.

00:21:57:34 - 00:22:40:37
Unknown
But if God is real, then I don't think he does know the future of everyone. Because, I'm kind of free will first. Determinism never. and so if if a god exists, then that God, does not necessitate determinism, which is interesting. but then again, like, well, okay, so you have you have to consider it from the perspective that you are a temporal being in a finite universe, and you were experiencing time from the perspective of someone who experiences time, like, if you were a creature who didn't experience time, then that wouldn't necessarily make you deterministic.

00:22:40:42 - 00:23:07:25
Unknown
well, sorry, that that wouldn't make people who do experience time deterministic. Just because someone can jump through time doesn't make those people deterministic. but it does, I suppose, depend on how much they are capable of interacting with, elements of time, space through time. that's a difficult one for certain. bit of a conundrum. I'm not certain if that bubble can be popped.

00:23:07:30 - 00:23:35:22
Unknown
if you change your models, I will give you $1 billion. Would you do it? no. Like, inherently, because it would either require me, require of me to lie because I try, as you might, you can't reject, the, the values that you have discovered within yourself. You don't necessarily choose your values either. you I think most people hardly ever choose their, the they, their values.

00:23:35:27 - 00:24:03:07
Unknown
I think effectively your values find you where you are, rat and or you put the effort into, revitalizing yourself through discovering the values and reclaiming them. but they already exist within your cognition because many of the values that you have, are effectively innate, that they're, inborn aspects of your character, like encoded into your DNA.

00:24:03:12 - 00:24:27:11
Unknown
so it's it's important to be aware of that. It's like the things that you value are actually heavily biologically informed, if not biologically determined. And I'm not a biological determinist, but, it's certainly not known how much, biology determines that. So it is it is your responsibility as a rational individual to discover those values and to reclaim them, to ensure that you can live as rationally as possible.

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Unknown


00:24:31:17 - 00:24:57:24
Unknown
All your values. And you can't lie. Well, I think it would be a lie. I think I would be perverting myself and, in order to do that, and that wouldn't be worth $1 billion. That wouldn't be worth hundreds of billions of dollars. That wouldn't be worth any an infinite amount of money. to do that, to, to violate the core premise of you as an individual, going all the way down to the biological level is something that you can't do.

00:24:57:28 - 00:25:24:18
Unknown
well, you certainly can't do it haphazardly, but you can't take it back. it's a perversion of yourself. It's a destruction of yourself. It's, intellectual, and moral self-immolation. and there's nothing that's worth that. No. No amount of money is worth it. but but but but,

00:25:24:23 - 00:25:53:07
Unknown
If there are punishments, is will not free. what do you mean by punishments, exactly? Do you mean, punishments that happen as natural consequences as exactly upon you by the laws of physics? In reality, in and of itself? or do you mean punishments enacted by other, other free, Other individuals with free will? Because, will is certainly free.

00:25:53:07 - 00:26:17:37
Unknown
Like, even if other people with free will punish other people. Like if you have free will and you punish somebody, the person who you have punished does not, you know, does have free will. still, like you didn't take it away from them. You just violated their ability to use it, in the way that they see fit by violating them in and of themselves.

00:26:17:42 - 00:26:48:37
Unknown
unless a life changing event happens, perhaps your values can change. that's certainly true. Many people do experience values changing due to, you know, traumatic incidents and and yes, life changing event certainly can change your values. But, in a biological sense, what, what life changing events do is they they activate, epigenetic markers that encodes the new proteins that, that your body may never have had or have that may never have had in that abundance or in that particular area.

00:26:48:37 - 00:27:11:57
Unknown
And so when those get activated, you effectively, tune in, you tap into a new potential, a new configuration for your being. And so, I mean, it's hard to say just how infinite, such finite creatures are because, you know, there's a version of you that is completely different than who you are because of, because of the differential experiences.

00:27:12:01 - 00:27:38:00
Unknown
if you had experience one thing and not the other, than you would be a completely different person. And that's just absolutely fascinating. like a person getting rich. yeah. Like that can certainly do something, though I still think money is, money is just a resource and it's reflective of you and your values inherently. like, it's not going to like, it's not like, it's not as if the money would instantly change who you are.

00:27:38:00 - 00:27:58:49
Unknown
Your goals are still be the same, your values will still be the same, and your money's going to follow where your mind is. but to the to the degree that it may change you is how long it takes, how long you have that money for. And, what what that money causes, how that money causes your influences to change.

00:27:58:49 - 00:28:23:42
Unknown
And, and, you know, both on a biological level but also on a social level as well, like if, if you start associating with different people because you have more money, that's going to change you far more than the money itself does inherently. So, Goodness, my schnoz is getting, cramped. Cramped. It's it's getting blocked off, but there's nothing in it.

00:28:23:47 - 00:28:29:28
Unknown
It's an illusion.

00:28:29:33 - 00:28:40:54
Unknown
what was the next one?

00:28:40:58 - 00:29:05:34
Unknown
A person getting rich and they don't give a fuck about others anymore. Or on the brink of death you could think of. You could think differently about things. That's it. That's it is true. Someone who doesn't give a fuck about others. That's an interesting idea. Like, is the implication there that you're supposed to give a fuck about others for any reason other than your own rational self-interest?

00:29:05:34 - 00:29:14:10
Unknown
Because I would. I certainly wouldn't say so.

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Unknown


00:29:19:27 - 00:29:37:26
Unknown
I don't know, $1 billion is a lot, but you would have to lie in order to do that. You can't change yourself by force of of obligation. Like if they if you effectively had somebody tell you like you will, you will get all the things that you want. If you say this thing, you okay, okay. Yeah, I'll say that thing.

00:29:37:26 - 00:29:56:13
Unknown
I'll get everything that I want. But then they continue to demand that you back up that position that they wanted you to take it like that's kind of the, from the, from phenomenological understanding of, like, selling your soul to the devil in a sense. Right. It's because it's like you're perverting yourself and, you know, you're perverting yourself, but you're getting something out of it.

00:29:56:18 - 00:30:05:24
Unknown
I don't know. It's it's like,

00:30:05:29 - 00:30:30:27
Unknown
Like, you can't force yourself to take on values that you do not believe. Even if you really want to believe those values, you can't arbitrarily decide to adopt different values. Values are not like, installable hot swappable modules that you can just plug in and unplug like the devil. Nate, in many senses, and you know, they're activated by your experiences.

00:30:30:27 - 00:30:54:32
Unknown
Certainly. but you can't just you can't edit your, your, epigenetic code on your own. And most often, the actions that you take and are going to have unforeseeable impacts on who you are as a person, both on a biological and and on a, on a psychological level. let's say the individual is the nature. yes.

00:30:54:43 - 00:31:23:10
Unknown
Wink, wink. Jawed. Jawed is dead, and we have killed him. I really have that dog in me based somewhere in that. Well, I certainly hope you find it. They gave a fuck about the money. Made them greedy and self-interested. I don't think it's the money that did that. Then I. I'd certainly say in that case that it that it was already in their nature to be greedy and self-interested in the money.

00:31:23:15 - 00:31:55:14
Unknown
just brought that out and, and I wouldn't say that there's any any anything wrong about being self-interested. It just depends to what degree you, you allow that to, to overpower your ability to, not violate other people's rights? like. Because there's certainly things where, you could be an asshole, but you didn't violate anybody's rights in doing it.

00:31:55:19 - 00:32:14:00
Unknown
I think many social obligations are like that where it's like, well, you know, you didn't violate anybody's rights. and you didn't violate violate any verbal contracts or anything like that, but, like, you didn't have to do that in the sense, I don't know. I'm certain there's many, many examples of that. But, I don't think there's anything wrong with being self-interested.

00:32:14:00 - 00:32:26:55
Unknown
It just depends on to what degree you allow yourself interests to blind you to, what's the word to blind you, to,

00:32:27:00 - 00:32:47:24
Unknown
Respecting the rights of others, I suppose. what if your values are never lying? And if you lie, therefore you are changing your values. You can't. You can't lie yourself into a reconfiguration of yourself. Like that's not possible. at least we'll know it will reconfigure you, but it won't reconfigure you in the way that that you're lying.

00:32:47:24 - 00:33:11:47
Unknown
You you will be training yourself to lie. you won't be training yourself to be truthful. When the truth starts from a lie, you will only know how to lie. You might get better at lying. but you're only going to know how to lie. the the reconfiguration is going to be downstream of the lie. and it's a really, really bad idea to redefine yourself based off of lies.

00:33:11:47 - 00:33:22:21
Unknown
I mean, it's, it's poison. It's really bad.

00:33:22:26 - 00:33:29:21
Unknown
The individual is. The nature was in response to the freewill thing.

00:33:29:25 - 00:33:54:59
Unknown
Individuals. The nature. Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you're saying, because when you say the individual is the nature, I'm like, yes, but maybe not in the sense that you mean, the individual doesn't violate my free will, but nature does. well, no, no, that's that's not true. nature is not a moral actor in nature, and in and of itself is something that just is what it is.

00:33:54:59 - 00:34:30:11
Unknown
Nature is that which is that is nature. but it doesn't have it intent. It doesn't have will, it doesn't have consciousness, and it's not a moral actor. Therefore, so then God does violate you free will will. And if God is that which is which is a pretty decent understanding of what God is, it's pretty. I think it's a good, a good definition for God as God equals nature equals that, which is I think that's a decent understanding of it.

00:34:30:16 - 00:34:54:40
Unknown
but no, nature does not violate your free will because nature is not a, not a conscious being. which I suppose does kind of destroy that, that equivalence that, you know, that equation there because it's like, you know, God is supposed to be an embodiment of something. And so if God is the embodiment of nature, then what we're doing is we're taking something inanimate, such as nature.

00:34:54:45 - 00:35:24:42
Unknown
the definition in this case of nature being that which is and we are projecting, will onto that, but only because we are creatures who understand will not because nature in and of itself has will. So, I suppose in that sense than God does not have will, and God is not, a God is not a being with what do you call it, with free will, with agency?

00:35:24:46 - 00:35:45:19
Unknown
and I think that that, that understanding of it actually makes, it makes the Bible far more palatable, because there are a lot of things where if you look at it like, you know, God is a rational creature, with free will. God is a free agent, the same as you and I, if you look at it.

00:35:45:19 - 00:36:05:04
Unknown
And then it's like, oh, no, God is an asshole like this. There's many situations where that's certainly the case, where it's like, why the hell would he do that kind of a thing? But if you ask that question seriously, why the hell would he do that kind of the thing? then I think it makes a lot more sense what the ethic is that is being laid out.

00:36:05:09 - 00:36:27:09
Unknown
I think it's a lot safer, actually, to, to presume that God is not a moral. sorry, that God is not a, a free agent in the same way that that you and I are free agents. so if my values are, I don't lie and then I lie. I was I always a liar, or did I become a liar?

00:36:27:14 - 00:36:33:47
Unknown


00:36:33:52 - 00:36:55:37
Unknown
I think you became a liar. Yeah. You became a liar. because you said you were going to do something, and then you didn't do the thing that you said you were going to do.

00:36:55:42 - 00:37:22:18
Unknown
So that seems. Yeah, that seems about right. Maybe I'll add that as a as a bloody, draconian discourse, like a bonus episode. that'd be kind of neat. But all the times that I did say it, I was lying. well, no, if you didn't lie until you lied, then all the all the other times, if you weren't lying, you were being truthful by definition.

00:37:22:22 - 00:37:39:11
Unknown
So I'd say in that case, you became a liar. Yeah. You're. You are not a liar until you lie like, by definition.

00:37:39:16 - 00:37:47:35
Unknown
Oh. What's this? This dance? This is a good one.

00:37:47:40 - 00:37:52:21
Unknown
It's very good.

00:37:52:26 - 00:38:16:05
Unknown
I should I should do this dance anyway. I've done that on on, on VR chat many times. Okay, I'm gonna head out. That was a pretty, pretty fun little, little addendum at the end. So thank you for joining me for that. Thank you for contributing to that because it wouldn't have happened without you. Azure. two tied.

00:38:16:10 - 00:38:30:36
Unknown
What's two tied? There's nothing tight around here.

00:38:30:41 - 00:38:52:27
Unknown
And, Pretend virgin. That's what you are. I'm not pretending to be a virgin. Well, I'm not a virgin, but I'm not pretending like.

00:38:52:31 - 00:39:00:34
Unknown
Virginity. If virginity is a spectrum, okay?

00:39:00:39 - 00:39:13:30
Unknown
Lying liar. Who's lied? I have not become a liar.

00:39:13:35 - 00:39:22:03
Unknown


00:39:22:08 - 00:39:29:30
Unknown
Too tight. What's too tight? The Rayna beta, anyway.

00:39:29:34 - 00:40:01:36
Unknown
Someone streaming something? No, there's no one to raid. Not a single one.

00:40:01:40 - 00:40:03:25
Unknown
A very good stream indeed.

